Who is the man behind Cliff's List? One of the pioneers and leading builders in the Seduction Community is, Cliff from Cliff's list. Known for launching some of the best date coaches on the planet, Cliff has provided a platform for many to advance in this field and to reach a wide audience. Cliff's List is arguably one of the oldest and most respected email newsletter's in the seduction community. He provides unparalleled, high-quality information on how to be more successful with women. Full of field reports, tips, strategies, reviews, interviews, and a variety of other great posts, Cliff's List has for years been one of the best free resources on the Internet for beginner, intermediate, and the highly advanced students of seduction. With a who's who list of the best coaches ever to lace up their boots, Cliff's List offers a staggering amount of information for anyone interested in the Seduction Community. : "Cliff like David Deangelo, I repetitively heard about in my early days from my students. Cliff is a very humble man who has gone out of his way for years to help men discover the answers that would unlock a lot of seduction doors. Launching Cliff's List Convention and many a PUA's career, Cliff has unselfishly given back to the community more than the casual observer can appreciate. The list of future Hall of Fame coaches that have appeared on his newsletter is remarkable, as well as his talent for spotting them. He is also a master student of the Game, although a humble one. Cliff has forgotten more about seduction then other elite coaches teach. He still currently holds one of the largest newsletter lists in the community, and is constantly shining a light on new and old stars. Hats go off for you Cliff.." Cliff's List has been around since the mid 1990s. He started it primarily for fun, and as a means of staying in touch with people. He kept it up unselfishly in between his regular job, and other commitments for almost 7 years. He did so with no affiliate links, no advertising, and, as a free newsletter. It was all done for personal enjoyment, although plans are to expand this into a major project, and to finally capitalize on his efforts over and above the last decade. Very few people have been as selfless as Cliff has and he has always stood for innovation and quality, so the future is bright. Cliff's List has an interesting history, and has played a pivotal role in the growth and development of the seduction community. Probably the most famous is the post that Eben Pagan made, writing under the name Sisonpyh. It was made up of things learned over the years about dealing with women from a variety of sources, including the information he accumulated off of some users on Cliff's List. For those of you not familiar with the name or nick it is none other than the highest selling author in the Seduction Community, David DeAngelo. That post was so well received that he expanded it and turned it into the massively successful David DeAngelo eBook, Double Your Dating. Cliff has been glad to have had a role in bringing many important community events to fruition. He also spent time at the now legendary Project Hollywood Mansion, hanging out with Tyler Durden, Mystery, Papa, PlayboyLA, Style, Herbal, and many others, and Style mentioned Cliff in several places in the iconic book, The Game. Other notable posters on Cliff's List include Rick H., RSD, Mystery, Lovesystems, Payton Kane (Seduce & Conquer Radio Show), PlayboyLA, Zan Perrion, AFC Adam, Doc, Sin, David Shade, Dr. Paul, BadBoy, Brent, Ross Jefferies, Steve P, Vin DiCarlo, Carlos Xuma, Orlandomac, and the Paragon Project, not to mention anyone else worth their salt in Seduction. Some of the most notable quotes from the List were: Cliff: Mystery was "harassed" at one point on Crescent Street by two lesbians who were rather persistent in their request to having him come back to their place for a threesome. I think if they were better looking the workshop might have been put on hold! David D: To set the context of what I'm about to say, I want to make it clear again that I'm NOT just interested in 'getting laid' and I'm NOT just interested in 'average women' and I'm NOT interested in 'moderate success'. Now, for better or worse, my goals WHEN I STARTED were to GET THIS PART OF MY LIFE HANDLED, and to HAVE AS MANY YOUNG SUPER HOTTIES AS I WANT. Mystery: This is exactly what I had done as well as have suggested to my wings here. I took it to the next level and got in comedy stages doing short acts. If you can attract an audience, you can attract 1 girl (or her groupset). Zan: The secret to my power over women lies in the power they have over me. If these comments peaked your interest then you will be fascinated in learning about the history of seduction as you know it, Cliff's List is a mine of gold to discover the true genesis of the modern game (CliffsList.com). Cliff also conducted many a memorable interview with a lot of the dating coach elite which are posted on his list for free, others have charged for similar interview series. These, and much, much more, are available to read on what he feels is the best free dating, pick-up, and seduction resource there is on the internet: http://www.cliffslist.com/archives. We agree for the majority of Cliff's List are users who use Cliff as their hidden little secret, their advance on the community. But as his user base grows that secret is diminished, if you aren't signed up to his list of gold I urge you to do so today. Cliff has also been known to post great material, travel, party, promote dating experts, help men become more successful with women, and spend time with attractive women (not necessarily in that order). The emphasis of Cliff's List is to nail down what creates attraction and how to "get it." How to really get that understanding that makes the difference between success and failure with women. This is what has made him arguably the most neutral and influential member in the Seduction Community, from the beginning. : "Cliff's List is the best dating and seduction newsletter out there, bar none." Cliff also organized two enormously successful Cliff's List Conventions, which featured many prominent instructors, lecturers, and "gurus" who are highly successful in their relationships with women. Several of these highly skilled individuals had never previously appeared anywhere else but Cliff found them and posted them on Cliff's List. Users found meeting these important seduction Guru's in person a life changing experience. These unique events were structured to highlight great advice and instruction that helped to take the attendee to the next level. The resulting DVD products stand tall showcasing the talent on offer (for those lucky enough to have the sets as Cliff is currently sold out of the series) and Cliff's willingness to share his friends and knowledge with the greater community. His vision was always to create a collective wisdom of men trying to help each other become more successful with women. Whether they wanted to find that one special girl and get married or find a harem of women as the next Hugh Hefner. His goal has always been to pass along information from the real world, only methods that work, rather than typical mainstream dating advice which tells you, amongst other things, to be more understanding, more supportive, etc. Most of which is frustratingly ineffective. Cliff is a self employed successful, single man, based in Montreal who operates Cliff''s List for the masses at www.cliffslist.com & www.cliffslistconvention.com. If you haven't discovered him yet do so now. You will have days of reading to catch up. Have Your Say Here |
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